the Muay Thai clinch

[Dianhsuhe]

just trying to get a discussion on the Muay Thai clinch.. considerations one should go through while in it, counters, etc.

In the ring or in the street?

If in the street tear his groin off, if in the ring do as Dave-San said.

Jamey

[unshackled-chi]

Thought i would add this little nippet for those who are curious to try it out.

Opponent grabs you in the clinch, taking your right hand or your strong side whatever floats your boat from the outside inward.... place your forearm pinky side down in the crease between his bicep and forearm.

Simultaneously using your head (same side) to temporarly trap the clinching arm at the hand that is around your neck that you are attacking, give a twist inward and slightly upward using your whole body (to create a little space)... and simultaneously using your other hand to grab the elbow of the clinching hand that you are attacking ....simultaniously twisting your body and lifting opponents elbow upward you have a sorta "standing kimura"

Add dropping your body for more fun, you can easily transition this into a full on arm bar from the ground.

Points to consider, if you dont have his hand secure with your head and applying the right amount of pressure he can in fact pull his hand out, as well as roll with the technique and out.

We found that it would be a super good tool to do balistically with a sudden jerk,..all in one convulsive movement. Problem is as you will see, if you try that with your training partner your only going to do it once or twice before it isnt fun anymore LOL...for the guy clinching anyway.

I pretty happy with it for street application where it would be done with full balistic intent (its not a hold but a release)... its definately going to break the clinch and depending on how balisitcally you do it quite possible the attackers shoulder joint ( PLEASE IF YOU TRY IT DO IT SLOW AND CAREFUL) This seriously hurts.

Even if your attacker was to be having a great day and roll with the technique and out, one thing is for damn sure..you wont be in the clinch anymore.

Hopefully the description comes across decent enough for folks to get the overall idea.... please do it slowly and cautiously...to much torque and your going to seriously hurt your training partner.

One more thing, we realized that by using our other hand to grab the elbow we were open for an attack on our left side, we found that if you do the above technique with enough speed and jerk..he wont be thinking of hitting anything other than the deck... but do to Murphy and his law, you can use the hand that was pushing the elbow upward to assist in the trapping of the hand that is being "pinched" with your head and then just use the elbow of the forearm that is between his bicep and forearm to do the upward push of the lock,.. requires a little more torque with an upward angle on it...but it allows for the elbow of the hand that is now trapping the attackers hand in place to be used as a shield by covering the jaw line of the face with the left elbow.

P.S apologies if description is lacking....Saints won the super bowl and Johnny Walker won the night. Cheers!